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Post by Zrcalo on Aug 9, 2013 19:20:23 GMT -8
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Post by strixbrevis on Aug 9, 2013 19:35:08 GMT -8
Huh. Well, that's interesting. I hope it's a matter of miscommunication and gets resolved amicably soon.
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Post by Julia on Aug 9, 2013 19:46:29 GMT -8
I don't think it's a miscommunication and I read Khamaseen's website before it was taken down and while it sounded strange, I don't think anyone should lose modship just because of that. Again, I'm not 100% informed of the situation but from what I can tell, that's what happened.
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Post by Zrcalo on Aug 9, 2013 19:54:40 GMT -8
I find it disheartening mostly because *I* have a mental illness and it does not prevent *me* from doing my job... I may say some strange things, but it's never been that massive a problem.
From what I heard, the mod didnt even do anything, but were let go.
I searched for an artist_beware but I didnt find anything.
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Post by Julia on Aug 9, 2013 20:00:10 GMT -8
Yeah it is pretty wrong. People are making a big stink about it on Tumblr (because it's Tumblr >.>) about how people should shut up about the unfairity and it's just a mod position and the website was weird and stuff, but I just find it abhorrent that the mod was dismissed before even allowing them the opportunity to prove themself. Guilty until proven innocent except that isn't really quite the same parallel that I'm going for, but obviously they were a good candidate and this shouldn't make them any less qualified.
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Post by Zrcalo on Aug 9, 2013 20:11:59 GMT -8
yeah. that's what I say too.
To me it looks like FR is being extremely paranoid about who they put on staff after the thrage incident. So their paranoia is leaking through everything.
Though I wonder if they found something similar to what thrage said on one of their sites. Maybe FR was scared they'd be attacked if some other person found it?
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Post by Julia on Aug 9, 2013 20:19:41 GMT -8
That's what I don't understand. Then by all means they should keep this person on, because otherwise dismissing them makes them overly judgmental!
Although I suppose they're just trying to be "normal" and that mod certainly doesn't fit the "normal" stereotype. Still, I think it's not quite right for them to promote/demote people by what they consider "normal" and "safe." I think the community really blew up about Thrage >.> I definitely do not agree with Thrage's choices, but we should be staying out of his life.
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Post by Zrcalo on Aug 9, 2013 20:21:18 GMT -8
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Post by Zrcalo on Aug 9, 2013 20:24:22 GMT -8
Yeah, I dont agree with what thrage said, and I dont blame the internet for blowing up at him. But I dont agree that he should be constantly tormented by it either.
I made some poor decisions while I was on staff at wajas, and it took YEARS to regain trust back. But I *did* grow up, and I *did* get peoples' trust back. Many people who openly despised me are now my best friends.
People change and grow. And you have to let them and not hold grudges.
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Post by qmiricle on Aug 9, 2013 20:24:52 GMT -8
Recently a friend of said mod posted on tumblr that she was not fired for being bi-polar or being an otherkin or anything like that. I don't have a link to the post because I was on my phone at the time, but it was because she was not doing her job properly.
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Post by Reyna on Aug 9, 2013 20:25:05 GMT -8
Interesting...
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Post by Zrcalo on Aug 9, 2013 20:27:12 GMT -8
Recently a friend of said mod posted on tumblr that she was not fired for being bi-polar or being an otherkin or anything like that. I don't have a link to the post because I was on my phone at the time, but it was because she was not doing her job properly. I'm more likely to believe this. Many times people go "internet vigilante" when they dont get their way. Though in this situation I cant judge because there is not enough evidence to support either claims right now. The whole thing where the moderator's site was taken down is /very/ fishy to me. And leads me to believe there's something more going on. |
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Post by Julia on Aug 9, 2013 20:32:54 GMT -8
I actually remember that specific user. They and a few others were posting when the Shadow forum was public (I hadn't experienced any of the bugs that went on though). They were creating multiple threads on multiple boards and I kinda got the feeling that they were kind of a black swan kind of thing and that it was just them that were being bullied. They had made a lot of blanket statements that kind of pissed me off and I don't know. I was initially on their "side" but after a while, I just wanted them to mature a little more.
And I just don't think people should lost their job over their personal beliefs. As long as they aren't forcing their beliefs down someone else's throat or hurting somebody (Thrage did create a safer version for photo-sensitive people), then they should be fine in my book. I might take it up with them outside the site about why they believe what they do, but I'm not going to persecute them and start up a huge mob with internet torches and pitchforks to try and get them fired.
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Post by Zrcalo on Aug 9, 2013 20:36:52 GMT -8
^ that.
Yeah the intenet mob was completely uncalled for.
Unfortunately due to the nature of the site being so popular it was kinda inevitable.
:/
there are reasons why I dislike tumblr mobs.
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Post by qmiricle on Aug 9, 2013 20:47:34 GMT -8
And I just don't think people should lost their job over their personal beliefs. As long as they aren't forcing their beliefs down someone else's throat or hurting somebody (Thrage did create a safer version for photo-sensitive people), then they should be fine in my book. I might take it up with them outside the site about why they believe what they do, but I'm not going to persecute them and start up a huge mob with internet torches and pitchforks to try and get them fired. Aye, aye. People are too wound up about feelings, I think. Some people are gonna be impolite or hurtful, and sure, that sucks a bit, but making a fuss about it doesn't make it better. Honestly, people are gonna be assholes in the world, and that's that. Thrage did some dickish things (ie the epilepsy joke) but I'm glad he didn't actually lose his job. He still codes, he's just not an admin people can contact. There are few things that sadden me more than rabid mobs of tumblr social justice warriors who think they're doing the right thing but can't see beyond their black-and-white point of view. |
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Post by Julia on Aug 9, 2013 20:51:06 GMT -8
Yeah, I almost regret getting back on Tumblr. During my hiatus, I certainly didn't miss the quick-to-gossip/act/judge/whatever hoards that Tumblr seems to house. And now they've got their panties in a bunch about the Wind flight and domination during one's flight holiday. It's just crazy. Hopefully it dies down once FR is back up :/
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Post by Kassandros on Aug 9, 2013 20:52:05 GMT -8
I don't know why people assume every accusation they read is 100% true. Especially right when it comes out before all sides have been heard from. None of this would be inevitable if people were mature enough not to rush to judgement.
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Post by Zrcalo on Aug 9, 2013 20:55:44 GMT -8
Unfortunately the way tumblr is made encourages this.
To get more reblogs and "likes" you have to make something that you think people will reblog. And so usually these things are along the lines of "oh my god guys, this person is WRONG. lets prove how WRONG they are! reblog my posts to make me popular"
which is pretty sad really.
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Post by qmiricle on Aug 9, 2013 21:00:13 GMT -8
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Post by Kassandros on Aug 9, 2013 21:15:42 GMT -8
My biggest problem with tumblr is that anyone (even hate groups) can reblog your work and use it with whatever message they wish and you can't do anything about it. So if the KKK wanted to reblog your photo and say that this is the kind of genetically perfect person they love, they could do that and there'd be nothing you could do about it. They could also reblog your photo and say that they think your race should be eradicated. Likewise, nothing you can do about it.
I'll never post my creative work to tumblr again after something like that happened to me involving a hate account. They used a poem I wrote and posted to tumblr to attack a group and they'll be able to use it on tumblr forever. Ugh.
I really wish tumblr would allow a setting where people have to ask permission to reblog or where you can deny it after the fact. I love the interface, but can't abide their policies.
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